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Perodua Alza Vs Proton Exora

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Like other automotive enthusiasts, i went to Perodua showroom today. Witnessing the vehicle with my own eyes is a must. I’ve been waiting for the launch of this model since last year, and becomes eager when Exora hit the market 5/6 months back.

I personally think Alza sits in a different segment. A new segment created by Perodua between car & mpv. Alza is more or less the size of a sedan, but too small to be called mpv. ‘Compact MPV‘ is what the salesman said when i mentioned this to him. It suits the tagline ‘Car One Moment, MPV The Next‘. This is where Perodua positions Alza. Bravo!!

Alza uses the same engine as Avanza, and that alone gives a huge advantage on the car. I haven’t test drive Alza yet, but i think it will perform better relatively to Exora’s 1.6 campro (better power to weight ratio). With Alza’s compact size, it definitely gives better power.

OK i’m not going to review Alza because we already have paultan & other professional critics. What i want to share is the scene at Proton showroom hundred meter away from the crowd where Alza was previewed. I went there to see basic 57k exora. But to my dissapointment, no one there, not event a single salesman…

proton showroom1

Maybe they were all at Alza’s preview doing competitor analysis :)

proton showroom2

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nasib dah angkat kereta bulan 6 aritu. Kalau tak, mau juga angkat alza atau ezora nih..

angkat kereta apa hari tu? hehe

Alza is not compact, but small. Better to get Exora than this. If you want a bigger Myvi, then Alza is the answer, if MPV, stick to Exora.

Caya lah Azwan….
Gua memang sokong lu lah…

gua pun sokong azwan gak.. hehe

The big drawback to my mind is that they used the GenII 1.6 enginer, which surel makes it underpowered for such a heavy vehicle, as that engine struggles to pull the much smaller second generation Waja.

then wait for exora turbo march next year.. :)

Kalau banding interior memang Alza kalah ,
Tapi kalau bab ketahanan jangka sama panjang ,memang ” i will go for Perodua ”
Ini pengalaman saya guna Proton Gen 2 dan Kancil ,dimana umur kedua -dau kereta ini sama lebih kurang 5 tahun .Milage Gen2 saya baru 58,000Km tapi exzos dah patah dua berkarat ,drive shaft dah bunyi ,dua power window dah tak boleh guna ,Keyless dan alram tak berfungsi ,engine kadang stop dengan tiba -tiba ,bawa pergi Proton check semuanya OK, minyak bukan main tinggi sedangkan my Kancil already reach 120,000 Km until now tahan lasak still ok ,so far change tayar aje .Dengan problem yang begitu banyak dan Fuel Consumpution yang tinggi ,saya tukar kereta Gen 2 kepada Vios memang tak terbanding dengan Gen 2.Yang paling Gen teruk sales ok ,servis teruk ,macam2 alasan tak ada warranty ,kena ada appoiment ,spare part tak ada .Berjaga jaga dengan Pro ,alamat akan menyesal kemudian hari.

Both Exora and Alza is not in the same group. Compare apple with apple please…

ok la caya la proton ,dont regret enough !!!

check out cyza.us now!!!

Bravo to Alza…very nice design. Agreed with Gold Finger, keta wira akak aku asik rosak je. After 5 years, seat jadi lowered..mendap ke bwh. Apakah maksudnye? Kena tuka tayar kah?? Nasib bli Myvi..Alhamdulillah, perodua hv better quality..

Alza n ezora tak same category. 1 is full time 7 seater. Alza is Part time. Best tuk org yg small medium family. Bila lik kpg ade tambah nek n grandpa. Jadi 7 seater. Bila takde jadi boot besar. So target group dia lain. Personelly I suka keta kecik. Compact. So, I dah bais kpd alza. Price pun kecik suit poket I…he he.

What I like about the alza is smooth transmission. Weight to power ratio is comfortable for an MPV. Making the fuel consumption quiet efficient(in theory). Quiet good trottle response.

Aircond is pretty ok. 3rd row seats may take some time to cool down but I can feel it even when it is not on the highest fan speed.

It is easy to get in n out of the car. Seat height is at about hip height(for the average Malaysian height). Although my wife complained that the drivers seat is a bit high(she is about a head shorter then me). I feel that getting in n out to the 3rd row seats is fine. Not that high to climb in. Of course dun compare it to a some other car that cost double the price if the alza.

Ride and handling, suspension is a bit soft(I drive a BMW e30), so I prefer the ride a bit firmer. Gives da driver better feed back to whats happening to the ride. But when you are carrying 5-7 people, should be good enough. Turning corners, when I am at the 3rd row seats, you can feel the roll. You won’t feel it if you’re seated in the front or at the 2nd row. If I had the money I would lower the ride a bit(by 1-2 inches). It would also make the car look a lot more sportier without having to change the existing rims(they look quiet ok) n adding skirting n al.

I won’t say much about the interior, except for the seating comfort, in a 7 seater mode. My height is 170cm tall. If I am the driver and I adjust to what I am comfortable n another person the same height seats in the 2nd row and one more in the 3rd row seat. It is comfortable for short distance. Long journey, the last person will have a bad back(oso because the seating position for the 3rd row is rather straight. Btw, I am not one of those ah beng that puts the seat to an almost near horizontal position to drive.

Now, what I don’t like about the car. It’s a bit difficult to get out from the 2nd row seats if you have adjusted the seats very much to the front(a bit of foot menouvering is required). Otherwise when in 5 seater mode, very comfortable.

I absolutely dislike the mechanism of the 2nd row seats. I think perodua(or any other car maker) should not compromise the need for a mechanism that makes it easy to fold n move the 2nd row seats. If they dun have then I think they dun deserve to be called a MPV.

The 3rd row seats should have the option of folding half of the seat. Then when there is 6 people on a long journey. You can still have enough “boot” space.

The choise of colours is boring, same old colours. Try some thing different!!

Overall, I do think perodua can price the Compact MPV a little cheaper(kelisa n Myvi is very much over priced!!). I like the design(although can be improved), n have a good mechanism for the 2nd row seats.

Btw, I have placed a booking. HE hE…

bagi aku exora lebih berbaloi-baloi… sbb pakej yg dtg dgn exora lebih dari alza…. bab speed 2 aku xpk sgt sbb ni kan MPV….xkan aku nak bwk mak bapak aku nak keta laju2…

Aku satu famili bawa exora balik Kelantan naik bukit fuh lembab gila kancil pun boleh potong asyik tukar gear dua , satu. kete baru beli. nyesal, boleh trade in tak dengan alza. milage baru 1800. banyak sebab balik kampung dari ampang ke pasir tumbuh

exora lg menawan hehehe :D

Pejol76, mmg laaa kancil blh potong sbb kancil 2 kan kecik…. hahahahha

aku dh compare exora n alza..
exora:
timing belt (perlu tukar bila sampai masa)
besar
minyak kuat (sbb aircond banyak)
tmpt duduk x menarik

alza :
timing chain (tukar bila perlu)
jimat minyak (aircond depan sj)
compact tp selesa dgn poket
tmpt duduk menarik
jimat roadtax n insurans..
dll..aku pilih alza..

Pejol 76… Aku guna Unser auto dari Baling ke KB ikut Gerik. 2 buah Exora test drive aku cuba kejar naik bukit macam nak mampus keta aku daki :-( tp Exora tu rileks je..siap main potong 2 lagi. Ada 7 org dlm keta tu plak tu. Siap lumba dgn Persona lagi.

Aku rasa ko ni tak pandai bawak keta kot. Kalau ko dah tau ada bukit kena daki kenalah lajak laju kit baru driving momentum tu ok.

Saga BLM aku 1.3 auto pun bleh dpt 185km dari JB spai KL aku pecut. Cuma tak suka rear suspension dia lembut sgt..

abg aku pakai keta wira…dah 9 tahun. kecuali cermin tingkap ok aje…tgk dia lenjan.

moral of the story:

servis ikut time..insyallah selamat .

aku pakai keta waja 2001 la ni dah 2009 hujung tahun.

dari segi enjin mmg alhamdulillah tak pernah meragam

cermin hehe mcm biasa dah 3 kali tukar kat belah driver

tapi puas juga bawa….

so lepas ni nak tukar kete : honda accord pulak pasal tunggu perdana baru tak muncul2…

kan best kalau proton hari tu jadi dgn VW…dapat pakai passat perdana..hehe

orang kata perodua still the best compare to proton. Tapi mana tau dengan alza dan exora ni… Apa kata kita tanya ke yang sudah beli ni kereta?

Saya dan test drive both models dan pendapat saya:

Exora
Sangat comfortable, interior space luas and airy. pemanduan pun sangat smooth dan sangat stabil. 3rd row legroom mncukupi dan boot space pun luas jugak wpun last row tu ditegakkan.

Alza
Handling is ok, sedikit tinggi compare dg myvi. interior biasa2 je tapi quite spacious. last row mmg sesuai untuk midgets ataupun budak2 kecik. kalau adults mmg x sasuai especially untuk long journey.

dalam tempoh test drive yg singkat tu, itu je yg dpt saya rumuskan. kalau mengikut pngalaman brdasarkn tst drive yg singkat tu, saya akan pilih exora.

persoalannya skrg, apakah exora mampu memberikan kepuasan pd pmbeli utk tmpoh yg lama. adakah reliability dan quality exora boleh diharap, tidak seperti model2 proton sblm ini?

yg paling pnting sekali, bagaimana dgn after sales service proton yg ‘termasyhur’ dgn kebiadapan, kelembapan dan sgt mnyakitkan hati?

kereta yg cantik dan berkualiti tapi servis lepas jualan seperti sampah adalah sama seperti membeli kereta 2nd hand tahun 80′an.

oleh itu, demi ketenangan minda dan poket, saya pilih alza.

(fyi, saya pernah memiliki wira, savvy dan gen2. dan pngalaman saya dgn service center proton sangat menjengkelkan dan saya bertaubat takkan beli proton lagi wpun murah dan product yg dijanjikan cntik, berprestasi dan mnawan)

info yg terbaru replacement waja akan kuar pada hujung thn 2010 n xsilap aku hasil kerjasama dgn mitsubishi. dijanakan oleh engin 1.8 n 2.0 atau pun campro turbo… gmbr2 spot yg aku dpt masa proton test drive keta waja 2 ala-ala mitsubishi lancer GT. so kita nantikan jee laa… after model persona, saga n exora proton punya model aku rasa dah blh dipercayai… Belilah barang buatan tempatan!!!

For me,Kanggo is better cute than Exora or Alza

ape tiba2 kanggo ni salah tempat ni…
EXORA the BEST……….

ye..ke..salah tempat..alamak malunya..minta maaf ye

kalau compare alpard dgn exora atau alza, bagus lagi alpard. hehehe

Aku,kalu nak compare mestilah alza..walaupun exora banyak cantik,interior cantik,macam-macam cantik.Tah aku pun tak tau dari dulu lagi aku nih terpikat sangat kat P2..takat nih aku dah beli kenari,kancil,myvi,viva dan terbaru alza.entah aku tak tau mungkin after sales service kot.Memang tak pernah ada complaint.Cuma satu je kemungkinannyer based on car value if u want to trade in..of course P2 got high demand.Takat nih senag je aku jual P2(trade in-untung plak tuh).

kalau compare new estima dgn exora atau alza, bagus lagi estima. hehehe

kalau aku, memang kedua-dua salesman proton dan produa ni kena pandai goreng..ha..ha..haa

Everyone is waiting to see official pictures of Proton new MPV, Proton Exora.Now Malaysians finally can own Malaysian made MPV at a decent price

Yang penting sekali, Proton kena maintain harga dan jangan tukar suka suka. Saya beli Iswara denga harga RM38k, lepas beberapa tahun harga jatuh sampai RM28K. Macam mana saya nak jual Iswara saya dengan harga tinggi? Proton ingat turun harga ingat boleh menyelamatkan syarikat. Tetapi ini adalah strategik yang salah. Customer hilang confident terhadap proton. Saya dengar Exora jatuh harga selepas ingin bertanding dengan Alza. Ini satu kesilapan besar Proton telah buat. Saya tidak akan beli kereta proton lagi kerana takut harganya akan jatuh 35% dan I lost my 2nd car value.

aku x bmnat nk bli keta2 bru proton sbb technologi campro myshkn,knon2 cngih tp haram,lau proton lme aku ske sbb technologi mitsubishi,skrg ni pn aku pki wira aeroback,pd aku alhmdllh ok,nk lg best pki bmw e36 lg jauh bza best dgn proton,aku ckp ni sbb aku dh pki

lorr…hampeh tol la!orang tengah compare proton ngan p2, ade gak yang gi compare kete lainnn..anyway aku stuju la ngan turbo..estima lagi best la..pecut 170 pon x raser ooo!( aku try kete abang ipar akunyer)..hehheh…kiter minum duluuu!!!…honestly la aku da pon mempunyai kedua2 nya..exora aku punyer,alza bini aku punyer..bagi aku alza lebih baik dari exora..dari segi interior mmg exora menang..tp kalo bab prestasi aku tabik kat alza..smooth when driving..kdg2 rs tersilap gak beli exora tp nak wat camner..dah terbeli..pakai jela..tp biasenyer aku yang rembat alza tuh..bini aku bawa exora…bersusah payah die nak masuk parking..hehehe kdg2 bgaduh berebut kete!hehehe ingat nak beli viva la..cari kete kecik lak..heheh

kepada sesiape yg dah beli exora, jgn nyesal di kemudian hari… hehe… alza cutting die saing2 mcm wish, caldina n stream. part pun made in japan. alza tak besar n tak kecik sgt…. tgh2. go perodua go… lepas ni kuar kan real punye mpv. bagi 1 kampung bleh ikut g mane2. hehe….

kepada bola sepak, idea yg bagus amik viva, sbb aku pakai viva, rase tak menyesal langsung, kwn2 aku sibuk jer tanye knpe tak amik saga bml tu,besar la konon. tapi aku tgk saga bml tu mcm2 prob ade. kawan aku yg pakai saga tu punye la jage mcm anak emas, aku plak jage viva aku mcm anak tiri. tapi tak der masalah langsung. die bawak aku elok jer, nk sedut minyak pun malu2. huhu… saga member aku tu dah 3 kali g antar warranty. haha… tapi ape2 pun, perodua terbaik… I LoVe Perodua, terutama MY VIVA.

yee…aku sokong cakap encik nizam tu.perodua memang bagus tak macam proton.ada kawan aku pakai saga baru 5-6 bulan ekon dah rosak.aku pakai proton sekenhen banyak masalah pakai yg yang baru pon hampir sama masalah dengan yang sekenhan.last2 aku pakai myvi alhamdulilah tak de masalah lagi.bab alza pulak aku tak pasti sebab aku ada terjumpa forum alza…macam bermasaalah jerrr….

gue kat indon tak mau pki mobil mal..cepat rosak….maaf ye

ssh nk ckp pasal alza dgn exora ni… apa yg penting aku bangga jadi malaysian…hehehhee

Aku beli kancil tahun 97… Perdana pun 1997.. Kancil aku sekali turun enjin… tapi perdana aku.. 2 kali tukar enjin dan 4 kali tukar gear box.. akhirnya aku jual perdana dan ambik ALZA…

ha… kete perdana mmg ar… pakai buang jer kete tu…
maintenance mahal….

sy baru pakai alza…bawa memang syok….smooth…belasah 170km\j…minyak masih jimat.naik 7worang….3.5jam dari kedah -kl….naik bukit no hal..

Alza belakang tak cantik, mcm viva. sapa2 beli, buang logo perodua taruk logo toyota. PERODUA just copy and paste. mcm buat assigment la pulak time study. x membanggakan langsung.

PROTON ?? ada yg copy dan juga design sendiri. bangga aku

aku pakai wira 1.5 luahan hati aku dh bosan ngan proton.. promote bkn main g, tp servis after sale nyakit kan hati jer.. cermin kt driver dh 3 kali tuko, pastu suspension bunyi cam lori pasir.. la ni nyakit baru lak mai, cam org x cukup oksigen kejap mampus, kejap mampus, lps servis pun jadi gak.. minyak usah ckp laa..

aku dah rasa 5 biji kete baru.both top compete.perodua pnya produk memng kuality bro.after sale service pong tip top..receptionist come2 lak 2

bagi aku,exora lebih baik dari alza sbb member aku ada pkai exora .one day member aku tersempk dgn alza dkat traffic light.pastu lumba lah nak thu accelertion mna yang laju kan,lastly exora member aku yng menang .hahaha

Aku try duduk dalam Alza ari tu.
mula2 test 2nd row. makk aii..nak tercirit masuk. sempit nak mampus. dah duduk lak, rasanyer leh duduk dlm bbrp minit jer. lps tu mmg lenguh2 badan. kene bengkok kan kaki.
dah test duduk, aku nak kuar la pulak.bukak pintu. kaki kiri selamat kuar, tp selipar belah kanan blh tersangkut kat seat depan. perghhh….selama lebih 30 tahun aku masuk dan kuar dari kete, ni first time selipar aku tersangkut.
then, aku try lak duduk kat driver seat. agak sempit. dan tak selesa. Myvi better. Gear kecik. mcm pegang controller PS2 pun ade. lepas test nak kuar, lutut lak sangkut kat bhgn bwh stereng. fuh… mmg klu beli kete nih, agak2 nye hobbit je blh naik.
3rd row tak yah cite la. setakat nak letak kucing dgn anjing je kot.
Aircond pun kat depan jer. try bawak Alza ni kat area utara, pas tu tanye org yg duduk seat 3rd row tu nape berpeluh.
Amik Exora la. aku dah try Exora, mmg luas dan selesa. bygkan kalau harga basic exora 57k, basic Alza 55k, beza 2k, Exora dpt driver airbag, row ke 3 ade aircond + selesa.lebih berbaloi.

Aku rasa dlm buat penilaian, kita serupa tp tk sama sb kita kena amik kira apa yg kita nak. Pakcik aku yg baru beli Exora dlm 6 bulan lps, bila tanya mcm mana pendpt dia..?? Dia kata tak yah beli laa. Tak pick-up.

Aku rasa kalu dari segi saiz dan keselesaan, Exora lg baik. Tp dari segi enjin, aku rasa Alza lg OK. Jadi cdgan aku… Perodua dan Proton patut kahwin laa.. baru dpt lahir kereta yg selesa dan pick-up. Hehe..

alza is ugly name but exora is wonderful,and one more alza is not very safe compare exora.

minggu lepas i dh atur loan utk alza n exora n now skrg dua2 dh col.. cma exora awl skit pnggil kot jd awl sign tp kdg2 mcm mnysal plk.. ntahla mna yg ok alza ke or exora cumeny.. long term alza mmg blh tahan lama sbp body n enjin ngam2 tp exora pn blh tahan lama jg if tau pandai jaga coz body besar enjin kecil so takpayah paksa2.. jst releks jer bwa spy enjin still fresh.. klu jimat tntulh alza ekonomi tp yg selesa tu mgkin exora kot… so, bg pandgan mna yg patut sy pilih coz nk cancel exo or alza..

tak adil utk compare alza dgn exora.. sama macam compare satria dgn waja.. dua2 target segment lain.. exora is a full 7 seater MPV.. alza is like a 5 seater car with big trunk that can transform to give 2 extra small seats when needed.. sbb tu P2 cakap 5+2.. atau dlm bahasa omputeh ‘car one moment, mpv the next..’

jadi kalau pening nak pilih mana satu, kaji betul2 keperluan & saiz keluarga anda.. nak angkut 6/7 orang setiap masa? go for exora.. kalau cuma angkut 3/4 org setiap hari tapi perlu extra seats when it matters, then alza might be the answer..

Aku dh beli azla dan bg aku mmg benar cakap Budeen tu. Kalu naik ramai (lebih 5 org) mmg exora la selesa. Tambah2 nk muat barang lagi.

Kalau alza, naik 6 org badan medium size (berat purata 50-70kg) kira ok lagi. Barang2 kena bwk sikit je la. Payah nak bwk beg besar, kalau naik 6 orang. Kalu naik 5 org, bhg belakang memang sesuai letak brg byk.

Tp kalau beli nk naik 6-7 org, baik beli yg lain je la. Alza buat sakit kaki org. Tambah2 kalu long distance. Beli van je laa kalu nk naik ramai2. :)

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